Violence erupted at the University of California, Los Angeles after pro-Israeli counter-demonstrators attacked a pro-Palestinian campus encampment. Bubbling tensions on the campus boiled over following the alleged breach of a “buffer zone” between the rival groups.

  • @BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world
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    632 months ago

    All these police attacks on Pro-Palestine rallies are just bringing more attention that would have faded away.

    And the unprovoked violent attacks will cause more people to start to question the Israel war and the US support of it. People will start to wonder why supporting normal Palestine people is an idea to attack peaceful rallies and to take away the right to protest.

  • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    462 months ago

    You can have violence from the police, or you can have counter-protest violence. The police have proven time and again they will stand back and do nothing while the people protesting for any liberal idea (sad that the left seems to be the only one interested in things like peace, equality, and justice) get beaten by the right.

    • borari
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      52 months ago

      I mean you could have protestor violence, but for some reason that’s just outright dismissed as lunacy.

          • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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            Nonviolent protest works when the violence against the nonviolent becomes the impetus for change. That whole Jesus taking the beating to point out the problems in the system has a long history whether you believe in religion on not. Probably why we still talk about non-violent protesters like Gandhi or MLK, too.

            That’s not to say that violence doesn’t have its place, like the French Revolution. But that’s the shortcut. You forcefully break the system and rebuild it right now, rather than the long game of changing the system from within.

            Checking out the author, he seems much more French Revolution type (even though being an anarchist really puts him at odds with any resulting government), looks like he’s spent a bit of time in jail for some protests, none of them violent.

            • @Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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              Pacifism did not work for Ghandi or MLK. They were both murdered by conservatives and the problems they championed persisted long after their deaths.

              Conservatives see pacifism as a weakness to exploit and an invitation to attack. In fact, never in history has pacifism defeated conservatism. Action is always needed to cure an infection of conservatism.

            • borari
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              12 months ago

              While both only directly participated in non-violent protest themselves, Gandhi and MLK both participated in overarching struggles that were most definitely supported by a diversity of tactics, including violent protest.

              In my opinion the reason we still talk about these individuals today, without any focus given to the violent action also employed in support of their same cause, is because there is no material difference between complacency and exclusively non-violent protest in the ability of either to manifest actual change.

  • @Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world
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    452 months ago

    Isn’t it interesting how Israel and pro-Israel people apply the exact same tactic?! Let’s attack innocent people. Whether it’s bombing innocent civilians or violently attacking peaceful protestors. It’s so telling. They are rotten to their core.

    • @CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
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      122 months ago

      That’s what 80 years of cultural righteousness gets you. You start to think you can do no wrong.

      Cue up the “I learned it from you” meme because the USA showed Israel how it’s done.

  • @bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    352 months ago

    I think this is a good example of how vigilantes often work to support the state’s goals when it can’t legally/easily complete their goals.

    For every fascistic government still bound by laws, there will be fascists willing to ignore them to support it. See this. See the KKK carrying out lynchings on people who are barely escaping the grasp of the state. See the settlers illegally settling on Palestinian land to carry out the state’s goals of ethnic cleansing.

  • @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    222 months ago

    Jesus Christ. All over students protesting that their university is openly supporting a regime committing genocide and crimes against humanity.

  • @tearsintherain@leminal.space
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    2 months ago

    Angry and lashing out. This time the Israeli genocide was called out and the world was made more aware. And the usual cover given challenged thanks to these protests. The dehumanization of Palestinian people by supporters of Israel’s genocide is frightening.