The only battle we are currently fighting is rich vs poor and we are loosing badly. All the other culture war issues are a farce.
Unironically yes, sufficient levels of violence will solve US divisions.
Anyone that thinks that they genuinely want this though has never lived in a country going through a civil war.
If anything happens it won’t be a civil war. There is no good geological line to use as a point to start. It will be much more akin to the Troubles of Northern Ireland. Which may be honestly worse.
The biggest difference would be that there isn’t an outside country that could or would step in. The US military would probably end up being divided, as many of the upper officers take oaths of loyalty to the country and constitution seriously, while a number of the enlisted people are much more partisan.
We’re already seeing the beginnings of low-level terrorism, with threats of assassination against judges and other gov’t officials. Mostly–almost exclusively–from the political right. It’s not much of a step from there to actual violence.
Or they lack a shred of empathy and/or imagination.
I’ve never lived in a country going through civil war, but I don’t have to do that to tell you that it’s not something I want ever.
Yeah, the ammo box is literally the fourth box of democracy after the soap box, the ballot box, and the jury box, but it’s only to be used when the other three have failed
At the end of the day, might makes right, so we better make damn well sure the side we believe in has more of it
I agree. “Sufficient” is a lot more than people would ever want to see
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Advocating violence against the Supreme Court is still advocating violence. Removed.
They’re going to force us to fight them again, aren’t they.
I’ve been saying it for years, war is coming. Best get prepared
When somebody tells you who they are it’s best you believe them.
They’ve been telling us who they are for decades, and who they are is the unburied remnant of the Confederacy coming back for round 2, because Grant didn’t let Sherman finish the job.
And they already have all the guns they need. This is why gun ownership is growing fastest among Black people, Latinos, and Trans people. I remember this when any gun control ideas come up, because anything you’re trying to ban is already in the hands of most of the fascists. I’m fine with gun control, but not poorly implimented restrictions that mostly effect the populations trying to defend themselves. The most dangerous people bought their guns decades ago. They’ll pass them down to their kids too.
For some, the war already started.
Oh no, the country founded by 1%ers who don’t want to pat taxes, and built on I disk burial grounds, is full of crazy violent assholes?
I’m shocked!
We aren’t Russia (yet), so we must keep trying to facilitate the change we so desperately need.
Imo. That would be switching away from first past the post voting in favor of an alternative voting system like Ranked Choice.
You STILL think voting and working within the system will fix this problem?
a wise man once said the only solution more dignified than war, is communication.
That doesn’t work against a highly organized system of oppression. That wise man never got a seat of power to abdicate itself through reason or begging.
which is why it’s the first thing you do. And why war is the last thing you do.
So here we are. 40 years later.
you forgot the part where it doesnt work.
Every step forward has been through violence. It has worked every time. All of our rights came through acts of violence. Asking for them has never, ever , ever worked.
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you are correct, that would be an immeasurable stat. That is in fact true.
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If we mean the 1%ers? Yeah violence would start solving that issue.
Yeah, turns out people cant disagree with you, if you kill them.
I mean… If you got rid of one side of a division, there’s no more division so they’re not wrong. It’s just not a cool way to solve the problem.
That’s OK, I look good in Blue.
I think some low level violence would make people more polite. Workers should be able to slap crazy customers and such.
i mean, that’s one way of putting it.
Anyone who believes this should be put in a thunderdome and the rest of us can pay to watch
Fascists fundamentally support political violence as a method for “solving division”. Anyone who is not a fascist and supports such violence at this moment needs to understand that political violence is going to backfire and play into the fascist’s hands unless you can first build alternative systems of power and support outside of the government.
If you start violence without that network of support in place, you will disrupt people’s lives, and the only support structure that can help will be the current Government. The military will be the ones providing food, medicine, and shelter. If you don’t have a strategy to get regular people affected by the disruption food, water, healthcare and shelter, you’re going to make the government the hero.
If you’re not a fascist, and believe political violence is necessary, your first step isn’t violence, your first step is to take a page from The Black Panthers and starting a community breakfast program.
That analysis is true only if the base is the target of the violence. Targeting the base is a big mess. But if the targets are the prime beneficiaries of the status quo, just the 0.01%, there is no mess. But that requires discipline, research, patience. Not just anyone can pull that off.
That one in five are violent radical fascists, and the other four are weak leftist pussies waiting to be slaughtered.
You had better fucking arm up and train.
