This is a great example of the fallacy fallacy.
A fallacious argument is not necessarily an incorrect one.
Don’t fall prey to the fallacy fallacy fallacy.
A fallacious argument whose only logical protection is the fallacy fallacy is a fallacy.
If you know enough fallacy types you can basically regress any argument to a set of fallacies. Good job you now have the super power to suggest anything said by anyone is a fallacy. Go and use your powers for being extremely annoying and super counter productive.
That’s where the fallacy fallacy comes into play. It’s the ultimate trap card for those obsessed with pointing out fallacies.
That’s because arguments and debates are not the same thing. Fallacies apply to legitimate debate. They do not apply to arguments.
I’m going to disagree with this.
Fallacies are logical flaws, they exist regardless.
Being trained in epistemology to identify my own faulty thinking is one of the best things I’ve ever done.
Not for arguing or debating, but for communicating, and expressing myself sincerely.
This right here. Some motherfuckers here really going around pretending that precise language is bad because logic is unemotional? Not sure when emotional language ever helped bringing our fellings across to the another person. Quite ironic.
Of coure just blurting out “**** fallacy” to anyone in a conversqtion is fruitless.
Logic is a incomplete mental discipline and can only be helpful in artificially axiomatic and simplified situations.
All formal logic is circular. The premise(s) must be an axiom beyond question. So you need knowledge to get knowledge. This is why moral claims like “it’s bad to murder” are beyond logical examination. Any attempt will require an argument like “murder does harm” which relies on the moral claim that “it’s bad to harm”, and round and round we go.
Logic is a word game. Every semantic argument proves that controlling a definition can change the conclusion. A sort of alchemy where language shaped reality rather than being a description of it. As if you could drive home in the word car.
The Vulcan, making all decisions with logic alone would be paralyzed and helpless.
While what you wrote is very intelligent sounding, “doing harm is bad” isnt a moral statement. Harm by definition is bad outside of any system of morality. You can break down any situation into a set of logical proposals, but not without consequences. How much of an autist the gentleman in the picture is being is really what prevents him from clearly seeing the shittiness of his decision. Calling your hysterical wife that youre leaving after 15 years slave to the sunk cost fallacy isnt logic. It’s being a terrible person.
The easiest way to tell your making a semantic argument is when you literally use the phrase “by definition”.
